Autor: PeJot (pjsoft_at_poland.com)
Data: Thu 12 Jul 2001 - 20:13:14 MET DST
Użytkownik Slawek Owoc <slawek_at_ds13.agh.edu.pl> w wiadomości do grup dyskusyjnych napisał:9ifu0e$rkc$1_at_info.cyf-kr.edu.pl...
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> juz kolejny raz piszesz bzdury, wlasnie mam 1,02 i p3 550 i wszystko chodzi
> OK (lutownica i dwa kondenstatory tantalowe i problemy z photoshopem tez da
> sie zalatwic)
>
> Cytuje nizej dwa posty z grupy alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus gdzie ten
> temat byl walkowany do znudzenia ...
>
> Slawek
>
> >I would like to buy a Pentium III processor at 133Mhz bus.
> >But I'm not sure it will work on the motherboard.
>
> This depends on a number of factors.
>
> Personally I would buy a 100MHz CPU and over clock it rather than buy a
> 133MHz CPU. For instance if you are going to buy a PIII-1000EB/133 why
> not get a PIII-750E/100 instead - both have their clock multiplier fixed
> at 7.5 and both are the exact same piece of silicon. The only difference
> is the number on the label. That way if your machine doesn't work at
> 1000, you still have a pretty nippy computer running at 750, and you
> won't have paid extra for the privilege of under-clocking it.
>
> >I got an Asus P2B-S rev. 1.04.
> >I've seen the recommandation of
> >http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=34 to set the bus at 133 Mhz.
> >But not sure if it really works on the P2B-S.
>
> It constantly amazes me that an article I wrote 4 years ago is still
> being quoted - mistakes as all. Note that my board (still running in my
> primary system) was a P2B not a P2B-S and was revision 1.02 (one of the
> earlier ones). I suppose it is also pretty amazing that a board I bought
> 4 years ago is still able to keep up with the best PIII boards currently
> available.
>
> >And If it works, is it preferable to set the CPU on slot 1 or on a
> >slocket with a FCPGA processor ?
>
> You don't stand a hope in hell of getting a slot 1 CPU to work. You must
> use an FC-PGA CPU and a slot 1 adapter.
>
> >Have anyone experience with this configuration ?
>
> There main factors are:
>
> 1) Will your AGP card run over clocked at 88MHz?
> 2) Will your memory run at 133MHz?
> 3) Is your PCI bus running at 33MHz (i.e. Does your P2B-S use 1/4
> PCI divider rather than 1/3?
>
> The first depends on your graphics card. The second depends on whether
> you have PC66, PC100, PC133 or even PC150 memory and how old that memory
> is (much 'PC100' memory produced in the last couple of years works
> perfectly at 133MHz). The third depends on the revision and age of your
> P2B-S and which clock chip it uses (it is the chip made by ICS, located
> near the memory slots).
>
> Let us know these facts and we might be able to make an educated guess
> for you. Alternatively, if you have a friend with a 133MHz CPU that you
> can borrow you could try it out to see if it works.
>
> If I were you, I would look through this group, check out all of the
> links in articles produced by sam_at_west.com which can be easily found on
> the Google archive using the advanced search:
>
> http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
>
> Newsgroup: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus
> Author: sam_at_west.com
>
> Here's some good background information on FC-PGA coppermines on BX boards.
> lots of it (but not all) geared towards overclocking at 133mhz fsb.
>
> You'll need the latest P2B motherboard bios and the latest SBLive drivers
> if you use that sound card.
>
> Note that on a P2B motherboard with revision level less than 1.12, the on
> board voltage regulator can only go down to 1.8 volts. A FC-PGA coppermine
> will boot and run at this voltage, but it is technically an overvoltage
> condition. On the other hand, although a 500e is spec'd at 1.6volts, Intel
> runs it's 1.13 gig coppermine (same core) at 1.8 volts.
>
> the motherboard revision level is printed between the ISA slots. Some
> P2B's prior to rev 1.12 have the newer voltage regulator that can go down
> to 1.6 volts. The easy way to check this is to set your slocket voltage
> jumpers to 1.65 volts (or appropriate cpu voltage) and see if your FC-PGA
> coppermine boots. If it does you have the newer regulator; if it doesn't,
> switch off the power and set your slocket voltage jumpers to 1.8 volts and
> it should boot.
>
> there are three generations of slot 1 to socket adapter cards:
>
> first generation were for Celerons only.
> Iwill slocket
> various others
>
> second generation support both FC-PGA and celerons.
> Asus S370-133
> Iwill Slocket II
> Gigabyte GA6R7 Pro
> MSI MS6905 Master
> Soltek SL-02A++
>
> third generation have on card voltage regulators.
> Iwill Slocket III (never manufactured ?)
> Soltek SL-02D
> (Latest was this card would not be manufactured.)
> http://www.soltek.com.tw/English/products/02d.htm
> PowerLeap PL-iP3 (note limited voltage range in specs)
> http://www.friendtech.com
> http://www.powerleap.com
>
> User Survey Chart of Asus P2B-xx motherboards with coppermine support.
> http://www.ctechnet.com/hardware/asus.htm#10100
>
> Note: see Celeron/P2B-xx chart on same page.
>
> Anand's page on running 133mhz on the Asus P2B motherboard.
> http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=34
>
> Anand's guide to overclocking the FC-PGA Coppermine
> http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1103
>
> Anand's guide to overclocking the new Celerons
> http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1227
>
> Tom's guide to PIII overclocking performance
> http://www7.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q2/000511/index.html
>
> Tom's comparing the BX chipset at 133mhz to the newer chipsets.
> http://www7.tomshardware.com/mainboard/00q1/000308/index.html
>
> Anand's Roundup of 440BX 133Mhz Motherboards
> http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1250
>
> Tom's info on agp cards running at 89mhz with 133mhz FSB settings.
> http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/00q1/000321/index.html
>
> Anand's info on agp cards running at 133mhz and higher.
> http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1270
>
> An interesting performance comparison chart from Tom's 150mhz Project Part2
> http://www.tomshardware.com/mainboard/00q2/000503/155mhzbus-05.html
>
> info on FC-PGA to Slot One converter cards, three reviewed.
> http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/slocketii/
>
> Anand's review of the IWILL Slocket II converter card.
> http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1140
>
> Review of Asus S370-133 Slocket card
> http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=175
>
> SharkyExtreme review of the 500e/550e coppermines
> http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/reviews/cpu/intel_flipchip/
>
> article on FC-PGA Coppermine 500e
> http://www.ixbt-labs.com/cpu/intel-fcpga.html
>
> Anand's review of PC133 ram
> http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1213
>
> special concerns with micron memory at 133mhz ??
> http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/memory/micron/mt_pc133/micron_pc133_t
> est2.htm
>
> some nice pix of an overclocked BX chipset cooler and various tips.
> http://bxboards.com/pc133/p133-8.shtml
>
> Case Cooling Fun (great stuff and pix)
> http://www.virtualhideout.net/cool_case/index.shtml
>
> Preview of Agilent ArtiCooler heatsink/fan for FC-PGA
> http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/cooling/arctic_ca/index.html
>
> industrial strength cooling ;)
> www.swiftnets.com
>
> Still want to run a slot 1 Coppermine Cpu ?
> Check this out...
>
> http://www.hyperformance-pc.com/overclocking_faq.htm#voltageadjustments
>
> PS it's a lot easier to do with a FC-PGA and a slocket card ;)
A mógłbyś napisać pod którym z powyższych adresów jest
opis przeróbki.
Jeden młody ma 1.04 i mnie o to męczy a jeżeli wystarczą dwa kondensatory
ceramiczne, przejściówka, ostatni bios - to byłby pikuś.
PeJot
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