Autor: Slawek Owoc (slawek_at_ds13.agh.edu.pl)
Data: Wed 11 Jul 2001 - 00:01:42 MET DST
"RusH" <rush_at_kiti.pulse.pdi.net.SPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns90DACD8972F76RusHoverclock_at_213.25.200.9...
> Robert napłodził(a):
>
> > Moj brat ma 1.02 i tez nie jestem pewien czy mu pojdzie PIII.
>
> pujdzie ale nie bedzie w 100% stabilny
ejjj Rush nie pierdol bzdur
juz kolejny raz piszesz bzdury, wlasnie mam 1,02 i p3 550 i wszystko chodzi
OK (lutownica i dwa kondenstatory tantalowe i problemy z photoshopem tez da
sie zalatwic)
Cytuje nizej dwa posty z grupy alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus gdzie ten
temat byl walkowany do znudzenia ...
Slawek
>I would like to buy a Pentium III processor at 133Mhz bus.
>But I'm not sure it will work on the motherboard.
This depends on a number of factors.
Personally I would buy a 100MHz CPU and over clock it rather than buy a
133MHz CPU. For instance if you are going to buy a PIII-1000EB/133 why
not get a PIII-750E/100 instead - both have their clock multiplier fixed
at 7.5 and both are the exact same piece of silicon. The only difference
is the number on the label. That way if your machine doesn't work at
1000, you still have a pretty nippy computer running at 750, and you
won't have paid extra for the privilege of under-clocking it.
>I got an Asus P2B-S rev. 1.04.
>I've seen the recommandation of
>http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=34 to set the bus at 133 Mhz.
>But not sure if it really works on the P2B-S.
It constantly amazes me that an article I wrote 4 years ago is still
being quoted - mistakes as all. Note that my board (still running in my
primary system) was a P2B not a P2B-S and was revision 1.02 (one of the
earlier ones). I suppose it is also pretty amazing that a board I bought
4 years ago is still able to keep up with the best PIII boards currently
available.
>And If it works, is it preferable to set the CPU on slot 1 or on a
>slocket with a FCPGA processor ?
You don't stand a hope in hell of getting a slot 1 CPU to work. You must
use an FC-PGA CPU and a slot 1 adapter.
>Have anyone experience with this configuration ?
There main factors are:
1) Will your AGP card run over clocked at 88MHz?
2) Will your memory run at 133MHz?
3) Is your PCI bus running at 33MHz (i.e. Does your P2B-S use 1/4
PCI divider rather than 1/3?
The first depends on your graphics card. The second depends on whether
you have PC66, PC100, PC133 or even PC150 memory and how old that memory
is (much 'PC100' memory produced in the last couple of years works
perfectly at 133MHz). The third depends on the revision and age of your
P2B-S and which clock chip it uses (it is the chip made by ICS, located
near the memory slots).
Let us know these facts and we might be able to make an educated guess
for you. Alternatively, if you have a friend with a 133MHz CPU that you
can borrow you could try it out to see if it works.
If I were you, I would look through this group, check out all of the
links in articles produced by sam_at_west.com which can be easily found on
the Google archive using the advanced search:
http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
Newsgroup: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus
Author: sam_at_west.com
Here's some good background information on FC-PGA coppermines on BX boards.
lots of it (but not all) geared towards overclocking at 133mhz fsb.
You'll need the latest P2B motherboard bios and the latest SBLive drivers
if you use that sound card.
Note that on a P2B motherboard with revision level less than 1.12, the on
board voltage regulator can only go down to 1.8 volts. A FC-PGA coppermine
will boot and run at this voltage, but it is technically an overvoltage
condition. On the other hand, although a 500e is spec'd at 1.6volts, Intel
runs it's 1.13 gig coppermine (same core) at 1.8 volts.
the motherboard revision level is printed between the ISA slots. Some
P2B's prior to rev 1.12 have the newer voltage regulator that can go down
to 1.6 volts. The easy way to check this is to set your slocket voltage
jumpers to 1.65 volts (or appropriate cpu voltage) and see if your FC-PGA
coppermine boots. If it does you have the newer regulator; if it doesn't,
switch off the power and set your slocket voltage jumpers to 1.8 volts and
it should boot.
there are three generations of slot 1 to socket adapter cards:
first generation were for Celerons only.
Iwill slocket
various others
second generation support both FC-PGA and celerons.
Asus S370-133
Iwill Slocket II
Gigabyte GA6R7 Pro
MSI MS6905 Master
Soltek SL-02A++
third generation have on card voltage regulators.
Iwill Slocket III (never manufactured ?)
Soltek SL-02D
(Latest was this card would not be manufactured.)
http://www.soltek.com.tw/English/products/02d.htm
PowerLeap PL-iP3 (note limited voltage range in specs)
http://www.friendtech.com
http://www.powerleap.com
User Survey Chart of Asus P2B-xx motherboards with coppermine support.
http://www.ctechnet.com/hardware/asus.htm#10100
Note: see Celeron/P2B-xx chart on same page.
Anand's page on running 133mhz on the Asus P2B motherboard.
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=34
Anand's guide to overclocking the FC-PGA Coppermine
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1103
Anand's guide to overclocking the new Celerons
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1227
Tom's guide to PIII overclocking performance
http://www7.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q2/000511/index.html
Tom's comparing the BX chipset at 133mhz to the newer chipsets.
http://www7.tomshardware.com/mainboard/00q1/000308/index.html
Anand's Roundup of 440BX 133Mhz Motherboards
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1250
Tom's info on agp cards running at 89mhz with 133mhz FSB settings.
http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/00q1/000321/index.html
Anand's info on agp cards running at 133mhz and higher.
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1270
An interesting performance comparison chart from Tom's 150mhz Project Part2
http://www.tomshardware.com/mainboard/00q2/000503/155mhzbus-05.html
info on FC-PGA to Slot One converter cards, three reviewed.
http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/slocketii/
Anand's review of the IWILL Slocket II converter card.
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1140
Review of Asus S370-133 Slocket card
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=175
SharkyExtreme review of the 500e/550e coppermines
http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/reviews/cpu/intel_flipchip/
article on FC-PGA Coppermine 500e
http://www.ixbt-labs.com/cpu/intel-fcpga.html
Anand's review of PC133 ram
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1213
special concerns with micron memory at 133mhz ??
http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/memory/micron/mt_pc133/micron_pc133_t
est2.htm
some nice pix of an overclocked BX chipset cooler and various tips.
http://bxboards.com/pc133/p133-8.shtml
Case Cooling Fun (great stuff and pix)
http://www.virtualhideout.net/cool_case/index.shtml
Preview of Agilent ArtiCooler heatsink/fan for FC-PGA
http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/cooling/arctic_ca/index.html
industrial strength cooling ;)
www.swiftnets.com
Still want to run a slot 1 Coppermine Cpu ?
Check this out...
http://www.hyperformance-pc.com/overclocking_faq.htm#voltageadjustments
PS it's a lot easier to do with a FC-PGA and a slocket card ;)
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